Away to Whitehaven AFC (Northern League) on Saturday 09th October KO 1.30pm. May have the opportunity to play mid week as they obviously have flood lights and save a saturday for a league game.
Workington Reds play at home to Penrith, GP home to Cleator Moor and HCC away at Windscale (all of these could be played under lights too).
Yes I think your correct Brian. According to the northern league web site Whitehaven have a game next mid week, I assume the County cup takes priority though. Whatever the date it's a very tough game for our lads.
Whitehaven's League Cup game with Seaham has been postponed until the following week. We had no contact from Whitehaven until last night, when we were asked to play next Tuesday. After a few conversations, it was felt that this is far too short notice for us. Under County Cup rules, we are supposed to be offered two alternative dates, and we've left it with the County FA for now.
On what has been an incredibly frustrating day, City have been threatened with expulsion from the County Cup.
The facts are still that we were contacted at 6.30 pm last night (Thursday) and asked to play at Whitehaven next Tuesday.
I can only repeat that in my opinion this is ridiculous and no way to organise a County Cup. I wouldn't have the nerve to ring another club up at such short notice and request a game
I'm soooo shocked to see Whitehaven trying to pull a fast one again, like they did in our quarter final tie last year. We had no problem at all with their team and manager but their comittee and staff behind the scenes, in my opinion, are an absolute disgrace. Whenever it gets rearranged I really hope you turn them over. Clubs run the way Whitehaven are deserve nothing as they show no respect at all for any other teams......rant over. Hope you get a favourable result.....Milly
City were informed last night that they were no longer welcome to participate in the Cumberland Senior cup, following a decision of the Cumberland FA Competitions committee. It is alleged that City were in breach of the County Cup rule 5 which is reproduced here. The full events leading up to last night’s meeting can be read here. If anyone can enlighten us as to how we have breached rule 5, please let us know.
A number of points need to be made here.
1. The unsportsmanlike attitude of Whitehaven AFC is deplored by our club. They had the discourtesy to try to arrange a midweek fixture, 80-mile round trip, with two working days notice. They then refused to play at a later date, citing the possibility of Northern League cup replays- a cup which does not have replays in the rules!
2. The Cumberland FA have tried to arrange a senior county cup with a ridiculously short time-frame. The draw for this round was e-mailed to secretaries on a Monday- a form of communication frowned upon by the Cumberland FA. They then expected sides to play games the following midweek. We are left to wonder if we have missed some directive that the football season must end by 31st December.
Who sits on this 'powerful' group of people that forms the committee who have kicked us out of the cup?
Seems to me the club has been stitched up again by the FA and by another club.
Really dissapointing that another club would look to gain an advantage against another club, seems to me that Whitehaven have a lot to answer for not only this year but in the same situation with Harraby last year
I might be wrong but am I correct in noting that only one member of that group is based on this side of the county? Who are these people? my guess is that they represent a minority of clubs from around the region.
See the majority of those names are on the development group within the County FA set up, pretty worrying to see this after the mess they have made over this decision. Not only are they in charge of the major cup competitions in the county they are also involved in the decision making process for 'benefit' and 'development' of the game across the county.
Is there a process of appeal to or is it a done that the club is kicked out.
Do we get to know how the vote went e.g. 3 in favour to throw us out and 2 against? There must surely be a written record of such things. Perhaps we might request this.
I'd very much like to see what written evidence the committee considered before making its decision and a written summary from the chairman of how the decision was reached. If not perhaps we should write to the FA at Lancaster Gate, as if there is no record of anything how do we even know a meeting took place????
Its all very disappointing to read. Just when I felt it looked like bridges were being built and roads opening up between the City & the FA, all the hard work has been undone by Whitehaven FC. Goes around comes around........
Just read Olly's post as I must have been posting at the same time as him.
I know from talking to people that they are very unimpressed with parts of the CFA, we had a CCFC meeting last night and John passed Jackie some cautions for a player who was supposedly registered with CCFC Reds U12 and CCFC U12, he was actually registered with CCFC U14 and it even gave the DOB of the kid on all the forms which clearly show he would be too old to play at the U12 age group.
Does anyone know how you become or continue to be a member of the CFA? I ask because many of the people involved are old chaps who have retired, in theory they should have more time to spend on running an organisation than someone who works, however, perhaps equally some of these people might have lost touched with things a little.
Is there a vote by member clubs of who is to represent them and is it representative of the area of Cumberland. Can anyone advise please?
Seem's to me that all teams from carlisle are treated in this way. It's a disgrace that this has been allowed to happen for so many years. How is it that the fa only has 1 member of its board from carlisle, How are these people choosen? Because i think its about time they re-think it so its fair for all teams.
The draw for the county cup was made on mon 27th sept, whitehaven were then to contact carlisle city to arrange the date for the fixture. They waited till thur 30th sept at 7pm to phone Brain Hall but in the previous 4 days had called off their Northern league cup game on tue 5th oct and spoke to a rep from CFA(Bill Robson confirmed he had spoke to Geoff Turell) all this without asking the away team if this date was ok, Carlisle City were then ordered by Bill Robson(whitehaven) to play on tue 5th oct as they had already cancelled their Northern League Fixture!. We declined whitehavens offer and Brian asked for Thur 7th oct this was rejected and the 2nd date of wed 6th oct was offered and rejected by Carlisle City. If whitehaven had left their league cup game scheduled for the 5th oct we could of played them the week after as several ties have done!!!. The attitude of both the CFA and Bill Robson has been a disgrace, their bully boy tactics are wearing thin. The rule 5 which they call on says after not agreeing a date the CFA should of set one!.
You make a fair point, but some decisions are easier to accept than others.
I'm getting a bit fed up of reading e-mails which say" you have breached rule 5", but no explicit detail of what that breach is. The rules are actually very simple to read and apply- but they have not been applied at all. It makes a mockery of a set of rules if you're not going to follow them
As it stands at the minute, no appeal is allowed against the decision of the competitions committee, even though they seem incapable of explaining the alleged breach of rule.
I would like to know for future reference as well- what is acceptable notice to arrange a game-
The FA at the moment are saying that Thursday 7.00pm notice is fine for a game on the next Tuesday night 40 miles away. Where is the line drawn? Friday night, Saturday night? 6.30 on the day of the game?
If Whitehaven had drawn CUFC in this round, rang them up at 7.00 on Thursday and said we're playing Tuesday- would the decision have been the same? CUFC would have been kicked out?? I think not
Just noticed on The Cumberland FA website an away win for you in The County Cup...I currently resemble a Cheshire Cat, at last Whitehaven had there comeuppance!!! Well done.
Cheers Milly- they were asked to arrange the game by the Competitions committee, but decided they would rather withdraw, and they're not playing next season either.
Totally agree. I'm a firm believer that what goes around comes around and the disrespect they show other clubs is shocking!! Hope they learn a lesson from this but I very much doubt it due to the character of certain individuals on their commitee, they'll get a fine next season for not playing as well won't they...well done again
